Ever pondered the distinction between being a 'father' and a 'dad'? Not just semantics, we believe there's a difference, and we spill the tea in our candid chat about fatherhood. As two brothers and fathers ourselves, we're lifting the lid on personal experiences that highlight the pivotal role dads play. From instilling morals and values to preparing children for the world, navigate with us the journey of fatherhood.
Let's also peek into the unique, sometimes complex dynamics of father-daughter and father-son relationships. We bring to the table our personal experiences with our kids and the generational differences that shape our parenting styles. We're also stripping back the layers on the importance of imparting life lessons to boys and girls alike, emphasizing patience and the art of waiting.
As we cruise through the 21st century, the evolving role of fathers takes center stage. We share our observations and anecdotes about raising children in an era of distractions and opportunities, and the distinct parenting styles of moms and dads. Got a sweet tooth? We even use donuts as a metaphor! So sit back, relax, and join us for a hearty conversation on the joys and trials of fatherhood.
Ever pondered the distinction between being a 'father' and a 'dad'? Not just semantics, we believe there's a difference, and we spill the tea in our candid chat about fatherhood. As two brothers and fathers ourselves, we're lifting the lid on personal experiences that highlight the pivotal role dads play. From instilling morals and values to preparing children for the world, navigate with us the journey of fatherhood.
Let's also peek into the unique, sometimes complex dynamics of father-daughter and father-son relationships. We bring to the table our personal experiences with our kids and the generational differences that shape our parenting styles. We're also stripping back the layers on the importance of imparting life lessons to boys and girls alike, emphasizing patience and the art of waiting.
As we cruise through the 21st century, the evolving role of fathers takes center stage. We share our observations and anecdotes about raising children in an era of distractions and opportunities, and the distinct parenting styles of moms and dads. Got a sweet tooth? We even use donuts as a metaphor! So sit back, relax, and join us for a hearty conversation on the joys and trials of fatherhood.
All right, we are back. We are back One more time, one more time. This is just being brothers, and I'm little brother, steve, and I'm big brother, mike, just being brothers. What we doing today, steve, we are talking about fathers and sons, fathers and daughters. Yeah, well, I'm a father, I'm a father and son guy. I'm a father and son guy and a father daughter die. Before we get into any kind of little specifics and this, folks, you know, we always have to listen, laugh and learn. This is going to be just a conversation. Yeah, a lot, of, a lot of pure research. No, we're not going to do that. We're not doing it. We're just doing this.
Speaker 1:Two guys who have the same father okay, and we, two guys who are also fathers, okay, and the importance of fathers. But before you write a paper or anything, if someone said to you, steve, what is the importance of fathers, what would be your elevated status? Sure, the importance of fathers. You can take it anyway. So the first word that popped into my head was guidance. Oh, I like it. It's guiding my sons into the future correctly and successfully. Okay, okay, yeah, I would agree with that. Yeah, you're going to hear it later on.
Speaker 1:Folks, did he show them morals and values and we give them that a set of morals and values to live by. Okay, and we have some distraction from outside, but we give them that set of morals and values to live by. And I think fathers do that more than mothers. You don't hear a big deal about absentee mothers. He's an absentee, absentee mother. It's the absentee father that I think gets the most rank or the most disgrace when they're not there or when they have no effect. And so, yeah, fathers will be going to talk about today.
Speaker 1:Now, hopefully, you had a good father. We did with the perfect guy. No, okay, and I don't think you can ever have a perfect father because there are no perfect. Hey, I'm a perfect father, Are you okay? Steve says he's a perfect father. Tell us why you think so. I think if you talk to my sons and my daughter, they're going to tell you dad is the best dad and I know everybody's going to say that about their dad, but they're going to really probably speak highly of the dad. They probably. You know, some people say if I could choose another father, I would, or if I could choose another dad, I would. I think my guys are going to say they choose me all over again, wow, okay. Yeah, I would be shocked if they said anything different. Okay, and knowing them the way I know them, and seeing you with them, I think that you have that fatherly nature, because I've also seen you with your fellow athletes who have grown men, been grown men. At an event we had an event for Steve's birthday some of his athletes came to the coast and these guys were like. The respect they showed him was a fatherly kind of respect. I don't know if all those guys had fathers yeah, some of them did, some of them didn't. Yeah, okay, but certainly that's important.
Speaker 1:One of the things that we know that fathers do is they are the people who set that foundation for emotion and development. Things like don't cry, right, don't cry, you're not hurt. Yeah, try again. Yeah, never give up. Okay, not giving you. Give me a slack where you deserve it, okay, yeah. And not giving you slack where you don't. For example, you learn how to play ball. You can talk to the ball on the hand, you're six, okay, but you get to beat about 12 daggers and throw that ball up to your over hand and expect you to hit it. Okay, he's guiding you through. Throw you a ball over hand Developmental when you're six years old. That's not helpful at all. You're not going to be the same with your values and mistakes. You can make it five and six years old. A good dad is not going to allow that as far as when you get to be a lot older, because that's just not how the world works.
Speaker 1:I think a father's job is to work with the mother, okay, to be to prepare your child for the world they're going to live in. But is there a difference between some being somebody's father and somebody's dad? Well, according to the courts, there is Okay, but you know, I think it's verbiage. You know, you know some kids call it people father, father and somebody like a dad, or hey, daddy, or that's my old man. You know, I think it's verbiage. I don't think anything. I think they're all the same hats, just different colors. Disagree, talk to me. I disagree. I think father, I think anybody father is a passive thing. Okay, we all know how. First it's also even. You know, father is a noun, I'm his father, and it's also a verb. You know I'm able to father a child, okay, so anybody can be a father, not anybody, but almost any male, okay.
Speaker 1:Who comes in contact with a female at a certain time can father a child. That's momentary, that's instantaneous, then it's over. But to then go out and be a dad, okay, and raise a child, I think that's totally different. I have a buddy who knows his father. I think it's just. I think it's just verbiage man. I think it's just verbiage man. Love his father, but he doesn't love his dad. I kind of think it's.
Speaker 1:I get where you're going with that, but isn't the? If the father does the same thing as the dad, isn't he the father still? Yes, that's a good one. And if the dad does the same thing as the father, isn't he still a dad? Yeah, he's still a dad, but he's not the father. He's not the father of the child. Yeah, yeah, because the father is the person. That is why he's here and then he's not the person who fathered the child.
Speaker 1:Okay, we'll say that, not the person, not the person that fathered the child. You can be a dad and not be the person who fathered the child. You can be a dad and not be the person that fathered the child. You can come into a situation where nobody has a child, right, right, but can you be the dad and the and the father. Yes, and can't you be the father and the dad? I think you can be the father and the dad, yeah. So then that's why I say I'm father and and also our dad, yeah. So I say you can be both, okay. But I know that our father's brother Was a father, but he wasn't a dad. But he wasn't a dad.
Speaker 1:Well, okay, circumstances are different and they saw my More times and she did okay, yeah, tell him about, yeah. So, yeah, it's an important thing and I think, once again, men, you know, how do you learn to be a father? Oh, I think you gotta watch father's. I Think I watched that father and I was like I'm gonna do that, I'm gonna. Yeah, father knows best. I watched that. I spent a lot of time watching father's nose best and I spent a lot of time watching. No, I know, I know that's, I've seen Steven, we have good guys. We also have good mothers in there, but that's the counterbalance. Dad says, do this and I want it done now, and mother says, no, you can do a little bit.
Speaker 1:What happened in our house now? Not for my perspective, okay, okay, that's my point, that you need to have a good balance, okay, of the of the woman, the mother or whatever the woman is in the household, and sometimes it's the grandmother, sometimes the guy's single parenting, it's children, when it's my, maybe his mom is helping. When I look back now, just for this incident, I could be way wrong. What it seems like all the balance inside the house was on mom's side and All the balance on the outside of house was dad's side. What do you think was that Example? So what did dad do in the house? What did he ever do in the house for us? Nothing. Everything that we learned and did in the house, we left for my mom everything we learned it did outside of that. Yeah, I get that. Yeah, okay, okay, and I think that I know.
Speaker 1:In my house with my two guys, I had a thing. Certain things were mom grades you know, a certain amount of, you know acted out of school. Maybe that's mom even. Even, I think, from folding clothes and putting clothes in the drawer to Making beds and putting your clothes into dirty hamper, as all moms. Our dad was reinforced mom's Decision for you to do those things. Interesting that you say that because I remember and once again, our dad was military Mom did all the watching it said you.
Speaker 1:But dad did a couple of things. I remember whenever I would go and dad's George said Michael, go in my drawing it's George's underword drawing soccer. It was very neat, yeah, very neat. So, even though mom did that, the neatness thing came. I always watch that if you wore a uniform every day, even when he wore civilian clothes, but he had a great, yeah, I can't think of anything Hard to imagine. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, hey, when I wear not One to be nice, we learned neatness shoot policy new shoes, okay, my thing. Same with similar my guys. If they were not getting their grades right, okay, mom, go up there, I'd make a lot. Yeah, got a note home that somebody told a lie. Mm-hmm, got caught stealing. No, this is mine, mm-hmm, because my job was to make sure I put him in position never to be In that position again.
Speaker 1:You find themselves in the system. Yeah, once you're in the system, you're in there forever. Yeah, man, okay, so you don't want to do that. Yeah, I think that's very important. The next thing I see right here is that the father's Set the bar with relationships for others. Father set the bar for how you treat people, how you relate to people. I think about that. I can think of one instance, two instances where that's true.
Speaker 1:I'll start with how you shake hands. My younger son used to shake hands with that wet-faced thing and look down. You know how you doing, mr Jones, I behave no up, look up. But I don't think I learned that at home. Really, I Can't remember that. I don't remember that because by the time I got to a shaking hand stage, he was gone. Okay, okay, you have what would be. Didn't you shake hands at 12 or would, or maybe? I guess that was too good. I think that was. Yeah, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. By the time I got to shaking a hand where it meant importance, it meant anything, yeah, he was gone. I had to learn that. I kind of got that, I think. I think I might've got it for one of my coaches one day when I shook his hand like this is hard, this is strong, you can shake a hand and then you start gripping harder. Man, that is such a good point. I think I made that because it says right, if we don't get it from fathers, we're gonna get it from someplace else.
Speaker 1:Yeah, unfortunately, your mom kept you in sports. We were always in sports, we were around positive people, because we didn't have. We didn't have. We had one uncle. Yeah, we didn't have. Our parents were basically only children, yeah, you know. So we didn't have uncles or aunts that we could. Also, because you know, your uncle is kind of like your assistant dad, the other. I know I'm thinking uncle Uncle, we didn't have any real. Yeah, we had great uncles. Okay, great uncle uncle, great uncle. They lived down in the hill that made the bootleg whiskey. Oh, oh yeah, uncle Clev. Uncle Clev, I think he might have caught me on, caught me on the handshake one time, did he? I think he might have caught me because you know he was a giant and I was still little at the time and he had them big on hands and stuff. Oh, that's Linda. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, those are the things you know. He might have caught me on the handshake once.
Speaker 1:Look at man in the eye. Yeah, you get that from your dad. Yeah, okay, look me in my eye, boy, now, it's funny. You know we talked another show about culture. Check that out if you get a chance. In some cultures it's not cool to look somebody in there, right, yeah, like in the Asian culture. If you're in the American culture, your boss is giving you the business because you messed up and you drop your eyes. Your boss said man, look at me, or I'm talking to you, yeah, but in Asian cultures, when someone is giving you the business, you drop your eyes. I almost right, put your tail between your legs, jackie, is a sign of respect and superiority for them. That's what animals do you know? Oh yeah, oh yeah. Any wolf pack you know, turn over on their back, on their back. Man, be submissive, be submissive, yeah, that kind of.
Speaker 1:What about with daughters? What do fathers do with being in a segue? But if I was setting the bar with others, what do fathers do? You got two daughters. They're beautiful, they're different but they're beautiful, and especially one looks just like you. What do fathers do with that? What do fathers do?
Speaker 1:So I think that for me let me just say for me, because I came at a time of need which was like a hero rescue type person, when I met my daughter and I connected, I knew her, but we really didn't have that one. The first daughter, second daughter, my oldest daughter, yeah, and we really didn't have that one through 13 time together. Our time was more, 13 through 18. Yeah, so I have a few pictures of her when she was younger, but we didn't have that bonding. But when I and so she knew who I was, I think she knew who I was, she saw what I did, but she wasn't part of it. And when the opportunity came along for her to be part of it, she was like, yeah, let's roll with this. She's very close to you, she talks to you, loves her dad. Yeah, that's great. That's great to have your oldest daughter.
Speaker 1:Your younger daughter is further away, she lives further away. Yeah, so, attorney, doesn't have the same time. She's not an ex baby, she's a what came after ex. Why? Well, can see, right, you know they call them, you know, like the baby boomers, the exes.
Speaker 1:Your younger one is going to be a millennial. Yeah, she's a millennial kid. She's in there with my, but I don't know. Yeah, so she walks. You know she doesn't walk on a type rope, she walks on a like on a board, a two by four, which means and I say that it means she's going to be more secure. She's not going to be, as you know, nice daring, I think. I think one of those dogs is more daring and go out there. Yeah, yeah, I would have seen it the other way. I would have seen it the other way. Okay, yeah, you know, I think all millennials, yeah, because I think all millennials, you know, they all are like they want to be sure, all right, if they're not sure they're going to stay, they're going to stay. You know they're going to stay where they're safe. All right, you know they're not going to be as daring. I mean, you know, if you look at these generations, which one is more daring Baby boomers or daring?
Speaker 1:Who came after the baby boomers? Baby boomers. Then it came give me a minute, give me a minute, give me a minute. I can't remember. I know my oldest son is that generation X Right, and mine are X kids too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and the X kids, we know what they about.
Speaker 1:All right, and the baby boomers were not. You know, the baby boomers were like. You know, they fought in the war and Vietnam and did all that stuff. Man, they really opened up the country with what they did. They were out there. Yeah, baby boomers, that first generation coming out of World War II, we were that first generation that thought everything was possible. Yes, exactly. And also we were, however, in that generation that realized, in the middle of that the bubble burst with Watergate, vietnam realized, oh really, yeah, it was not the way we thought it was. Yeah, and I know that's getting our fathers for a bit, but yeah, I mean fathers and daughters, fathers and son. I can think of one such way.
Speaker 1:Dr the Story my younger son was on a team with this other young guy, practice August. You remember, you know coach, you know you practice in August. They were practicing August, pop Warner, and the little ice cream soda truck was there after practice Very smart, good place to get business. So, yeah, whatever that is gonna stop, we're going to need to go with um. We're walking toward the truck, kids are going to be going toward the car and one kid says to his dad dad, can I have a soda? He's like no man, we got soda at home. We can wait till you get home.
Speaker 1:His sister, a year younger, comes up and says daddy, can I have? Before she got soda out of her mouth, his hand was going to his pocket. Yeah, okay, his hand was going to his pocket. So basically, I have to. She got the soda and came back and drank it in her brother's face. I said man, there's probably none of my business, but if you want to tell me, just say man, yeah, that's my business.
Speaker 1:But why is it that when your son asked for a soda, you told him to wait. So when your daughter asked for a soda, he went right ahead and gave it to her. Yeah, and he basically said Mike, I want my daughter to know she always can count on me. I want my son to know that sometimes you have to learn to wait in life. That's what I'm talking about, that's what my, that's what my kids, that's what I feel too. Man, well, and so what you got is the. You got two different sets of values for and these guys, these two kids, were your part. Two sets of values for basically the same family. You feel the same way.
Speaker 1:Yes, because you can't walk into McDonald's all the time and be first in line. You're going to have to get in line and wait. You go to a drive to. It's rare that you're first. You always got to wait, and so you need to learn that. Why don't you teach that to the daughter then? Huh, didn't the daughter learn that also? No, she didn't learn that. She's like oh, you know, haven't you been in line in the store, like in McDonald's and I use McDonald's because they don't have like a straight line. Their line is kind of like we would just stand around and then you just move up. Haven't you been standing in line, you know? And then somebody comes up from beside you and then actually, you know, they look at you and then they move up in front of you like like they pretend, like you're still looking at the menu, not making your order, and they know what they want, and so they cut in front of you and then you have to go. Excuse me, yeah, I was next. Oh, I'm sorry, I thought you were looking at the menu. No, I'm not, I'm next.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, I think there's more women doing that than men. I think that's a lot of the issues that we see on the news is being caused by stuff like that. Do you think some of the women that are acting out and you see more women acting out now than ever before I think the women are acting out more than before because they know they got the law on their side. That's nothing to do with fathers being in the home part, no, no, I think they know they got the law on their side. You know it's jail time now If you do anything, and I'm not saying this right or wrong, I'm just saying they know that if a man does something with a woman, he's gonna get at least 30 days and maybe more. That's true. Well, I think. Basically, I think women do.
Speaker 1:Well, let me ask you this as a father of women Do you think women based their relationships on, in the real world, what other men on the relationship they have with their father? They mobbed their relationship. Ooh, I have an answer. I'm not really sure if I wanna use my answer for that on the air. Let me just say that there are a society of people who definitely choose their other half, their male partner, based on their relationship with their father Good or bad, good, good, okay. And then there are other generations, other society of people who don't base their relationships with their husbands or choose their husbands because of their father. They just choose him because of what he got in his pocket, his checkbook. Well, that might be the way they had a relationship with their dad too. Dad always just like daddy, I need a hundred dollars. Boom, here's 200. Yeah, yeah, you can begin to learn that behavior Now. That becomes the kind of man you want, exactly, exactly. Okay, so I can see that Men, on the other hand, I think they don't base their relationship as much maybe they do, but they really base themselves on their father, and by that I mean there's things about and once again, we have the same father.
Speaker 1:There's things about our father, like I said, I'm like him, and there are other things based on him that I'm like, nah, I'm not quite like him in that way. So there's things about our dad. I think it was a good dad. We got a great family. We don't have any jailbirds, dopeheads, anything like that, but there's things that we know. So we don't have any lawyers or doctors either, at least not yet, I know. Yeah, we're working on it, we're working on it. Yeah, we're kind of a family of it's always good to have a doctor in the family. Yeah, it is, and I think we got one maybe coming, maybe a little bookie. But yeah, we got a couple of college graduates in the family and we got teachers and we got TV guys and producers and actors, but no, no doctors and lawyers. Yes, yet, just yet, but we're getting there.
Speaker 1:For a long time, we were just a family, and this is something that you learn from your parents, too, and your dad Pay your bills, get a good job. Pay your bills. Get a good job, stay on it and pay your bills. And as far as the high aspirations our parents came from, the depression era, undereducated people from the South, getting a good job and keeping it, that was successful. You and I know that that's a way a long way from being successful. Success goes way beyond that, but that was a version of success for them.
Speaker 1:I do think, though, there's things about my dad that means things that I do Even now, even now that I sit in my subpoena. I think they'll be proud of me and I've outlived him, okay, and I still think they'll be proud of that. I don't know, man, for me, I don't know. Okay for me, I don't know, okay, uh, what he would say Okay, let me ask you this I know, when I meet people and you know I'm still dating at this age I just one of the criteria for anyone with criteria. One of the criteria would be with these people, this person continue, I think my boys look at me in a positive vein.
Speaker 1:Would these people also have my sons continue to look at me in a positive vein? Okay, I suppose, like dad, what happened to your choices, man? Dad put that into your taste in people's first education values, morals. I brought somebody home that was kind of like shady, different. I think boys still look to their dad for a certain amount of leadership. I think even I watched you with your wrestlers. These guys 40, 40, 45 years old, they still had that deference for you as coach. Okay, and coaches is another dad.
Speaker 1:So I think, and this and being a single father, yeah, being single man, a single man, he's gonna have, or he's gonna, I don't want to say go through, but he's gonna have a lot of, or several I don't want to say a lot, but several different females that come along and so they see the kind of woman that your father is always dating and they would expect that to always be the same. They would expect for it to drop off. They might, they probably even think it would go up. They would be shocked if it went up, but they wouldn't be surprised. They want to might, as at least like your mother, though yeah, not a mother, your mother passed, or your parents split up, or if you still had parents, your parents just do it together. I don't even know if they want that man. Remember, we're talking about a different generation of kids. We, our generation, might want to be like that, but those guys, I don't really think that that matters as much as it matters that, as long as you're happy, okay. Well, I think that's what most fathers want for their kids. Yeah, I just kind of think that I know.
Speaker 1:Well, you should not shop because you're not shopping and I use that fruitlessly for a mate who's like your son's mom. You're shopping for somebody for yourself, correct? So, so they're not gonna be the one to say, oh, she's not like mom, you know. No, she's not like mom, you know. But you know, I'm not looking for a woman like your mother. You know, I dated your mother.
Speaker 1:Now, look what's the difference? I think if I were in that situation and I'd say somebody's still not, they're not, they're not divorced, their mom's still in their life, I think they want somebody similar. Well, you know, I take that back because I didn't want anybody like my mom. Yeah, yeah, what's my deal? Yeah, yeah, but I did, you're right, I did model myself more like my dad, you know, neatness and all those kind of things, and trying to strive for more and it goes music lover and even though he was he's a friendly guy he was introverted. You and I are more extroverted. Yes, definitely Okay by comparison. But yeah, I did. I guess I did model.
Speaker 1:There's so many places that dads come in. You know self-defense when you know we teach you how to put your dukes up and defend yourself as dad. You know it's curious. I'm afraid you said that because when we first start talking about this the one of the things that we learned early on from our fathers and our mothers as well, as if somebody hit you, you better hit them back and then you know, and then, being in the education, it feels like I am. You know you expect your kids to get hit by a kid and don't do anything bad, because if he gets hit back then he's going to get in trouble and that don't make sense. You know everybody I can't.
Speaker 1:I don't know any parents that wouldn't tell that that don't say somebody hit you, you better hit them back. I think that's just an innate thing that parents do with your kids. You know, I don't think anybody raises a kid, says if he hits, if he hits you, just to stand there, no, no, no, they don't say that to your kids. No, if he hit you, they say you better hit him back. I think I don't think every parent teaches that. I do, I do, I think all of them do. And then we, and then we, no, just go tell the find, find an adult, find someone hits you, find an adult. Well, maybe somebody who's like twice my size. Maybe I'll find an adult, somebody in my, somebody in my size.
Speaker 1:I think the kids have to learn to stand their ground and then begin to learn that you don't always have to handle that physically, right, but in the beginning, in the beginning, you know when they're not hitting that hard, it's self-preservation, it's all been self-preservation. They're not leaving any bruises, no one's hindering anybody, right, okay, they're just kids hitting. And then, and that's the first clue of like, you have to speak, you have to defend yourself, which goes into speaking up for yourself, standing up for yourself, et cetera, and then from there it goes into standing up for others. That's right as well, okay, and that's back to the moral side. So your fathers I guess fathers and mothers teach that.
Speaker 1:I mean last question, steve, our father, which is more important in the life of a male? Well, that's two questions, father or mother, I don't say age zero to 17. When you leave the house, which parent has the most influence in your mind and I know you're not a doctor or a parental expert which parent is more important for a child zero to 17? Yeah, first, first. First, the girl? That's a good question? Yeah, I probably think it's not. That's a good question. Just sleep on that for a day or two. I'm going to say that it's the mom, but I'm also gonna say maybe 30 years ago it would be the mom, I think. 30 years later, I think it's probably doesn't really matter which one it is, and it could be the dad. Well, yeah, for the girls, I think definitely a long time goes to mom, because maybe 30, 40 years ago, because women's roles were more limited, yes, but now that you're out in the real world, sometimes you need a dad to tell you how to be tough for yourself, how to speak up for yourself, and sometimes you can't fight everybody, and so I think dad has a more of an influence on girls' lives today than they did before Before, which is, like you know, you're gonna be more domesticated, limited job opportunities, so your mom can handle it.
Speaker 1:I think today, when I look back at my sons after my split with my ex. It was a very nice woman, it was more of a wet. I knew that Her raising two sons she was gonna be calling on me. Good, I knew that. That's why I never pursued any type of child custody, or because I was. I am ready, I'm bring my own. I can't be no. Yeah, bring me my kids. And they came and we spent lots of time together. You guys came out and hung out with us at the football camp, yeah, yeah. So Now, flip it over. Okay, now for your boys and they'll be going that way now.
Speaker 1:Which parent's more important today, 21st century, 21st century, millennial kids, is gotta be the dad. And the reason being is there are so many, I wanna say, opportunities, but there are also distractions for women that they choose those over their children. The distractions for the men, I think, have always been the same, but I think for women it's way more distractions. For them, all right, even if it's nothing but standing in line and going and getting a $2,500 purse and leaving their kids in cars and getting the kids. There's so many distractions that they put these material things in front of their More opportunities. Yes, yes, I still think, even before.
Speaker 1:I think it takes a man to make a man. You know your mom can make a good person, okay, but certain things about men, like pouting. I remember when my younger son was a little he was pout and I would just get on him. My father was like men don't pout, men don't pout. And my mom would say I don't understand why. That's a big deal. I'm like because you're not a man.
Speaker 1:Our associate producer, okay Deuce, was upset because I got him a sprinkle donut but it didn't have the right sprinkles on it. Now, I didn't even know this, but there are different types of sprinkle donuts. I didn't know that. Come on, all right. So there are cherry sprinkles, strawberry sprinkles, cherry sprinkles and chocolate sprinkles chocolate and white or something confetti type sprinkles. And so I just say give me, you know, just give me some strawberry sprinkles. I can tell it's strawberry from cherry. I don't even know how you can tell the difference Get red.
Speaker 1:So when I got so he was asleep when I bought it. So when we woke up and I said I got you a donut, he looked in the bag. He was like I don't want it. I said you don't want it. I said why not? He's like got these sprinkles on it and he went into the pouting thing and he almost started to cry At the bottom. Yeah, because I didn't get him the right donut.
Speaker 1:And I'm like, well, guess what, you don't have to eat it, but I can open that door and I'll have five kids that will love to have this donut. Great lesson. Great lesson, love to have that donut. I said so what you want me to do? He took it back and he ate it. Great lesson.
Speaker 1:That's a dad. That is a dad lesson, a mom lesson. And please, no cars and letters. A mom lesson might have been okay, man, just give it to me. You don't have to eat it. But to go about and say I can tell you five kids who would love to have, all I gotta do is open this door and say, who wants a donut? That what you did was brought it around the real okay. That's what you how you feel. Let's get real. Let's get real okay. And he knows it. He knew they'd be a grandpa.
Speaker 1:I said who wants a donut? She was the eating away donut. I'm there. That's the father lesson. That's the father lesson. We're gonna end on that man. That's where I think mom and dads are different Folks. This audio's been kind of crazy, but we're gonna go ahead and try to get out of here while we're eating donuts, strawberry sprinkles, cherries I don't know if they're strawberry sprinkles and cherries for you, you will after today, but apparently there must be some, because if I'm associated, producer dude says there's a difference. There must be a difference. Hey, this is Big Brother Mike saying goodbye. I'm Little Brother Steve saying goodbye, just being brothers, and we'll see you next time. Peace and happiness.